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What does it take to build creative independence? Jay Clouse knows a thing or two about making that happen. For the last 10 years, Jay's been exploring what it means to be a creator and helping other people become their very own boss in the creator economy. In this episode, we sat down with Jay to talk about his creative endeavors and how he brought them to life, the benefits of having a podcast (even if you're a total beginner), what the first thing he'd do if he was in the beginning of building an online business, and more.

Jay Clouse is a writer, podcaster, and community builder. He hosts Creative Elements, a narrative-interview podcast exploring how your favorite creators make a living with their art and creativity. He writes the newsletter Creative Companion, and he previously led the Community Experience team for Pat Flynn and Smart Passive Income, designing their paid membership community and cohort-based course programs.

Where to find Jay:

Jay's website: https://jayclouse.com
Jay's Teachable school: https://courses.jayclouse.com 
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayclouse 
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jayclouse
Podcast: https://creativeelements.fm

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