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Pygmy hippopotamus bugs, DEF CON's data slip-up, and phishing fraudsters have their collars felt. All this and much much more is discussed in the latest edition of the "Smashing Security" podcast by computer security veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault, joined this week by Naked Security's Paul Ducklin. Visit https://www.smashingsecurity.com/238 to check out this episode’s show notes and episode links. We're going to be taking a holiday for a couple of weeks, but will be back with a regular show later in August. Follow the show on Twitter at @SmashinSecurity, or on the Smashing Security subreddit, or visit our website for more episodes. Remember: Follow us on Apple Podcasts, or your favourite podcast app, to catch all of the episodes as they go live. Thanks for listening! Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language. Theme tune: "Vinyl Memories" by Mikael Manvelyan. Assorted sound effects: AudioBlocks. Special Guest: Paul Ducklin.