Lockdown exit plan on way as UK passes COVID-19 peak | 30 April 2020

On this edition of the Sky News Daily podcast with Dermot Murnaghan, we examine what Boris Johnson has had to say, as well as the 'R' number, that testing target and the issue of face masks.We are joined today by our deputy political editor Sam Coates - plus former New Zealand PM Helen Clark talks to us about the international response, 'travel bubbles' and the 'making or breaking' of global leaders during the pandemic.

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