718: Things You’ve Gotta Try

This week, we’re all about trying some new things in the kitchen. We’ve got unexpected ideas from our listeners and from pros like Milk Bar’s Christina Tosi. Food & Wine’s restaurant editor Khushbu Shah weighs in on the best way to cook rice and their wine editor Ray Isle turns to canned wine. Chef Pierre Thiam introduces us the African super grain fonio, and Ariel Dumas, adventurist cook and a head writer for The Late Show with Steven Colbert, accepts a ratatouille challenge from Francis.


Broadcast dates for this episode:



  • August 28, 2020 (originally aired)


  • September 3, 2021 (rebroadcast)


  • December 29, 2023 (rebroadcast)







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