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In this can't miss podcast, one of the greatest culinary minds America has ever produced, Chef Wiley Dufresne, sits down with Eli to discuss his journey as a chef and modernist cuisine champion. Curiosity has been a leading edge for everything Chef Wiley does, and as one of the first chefs to start asking questions about the chemistry and science behind cooking, he began to develop his own New York version of modern cuisine. Working with food scientists and modernist chefs around the globe, he began to blend his own creativity and curiosity to bend the rules of cooking as we knew it, creating dishes such as pickled beef tongue with fried mayonnaise, foie gras tied in knots, and a frozen "everything bagel" with smoked salmon threads and crispy cream cheese, just to name a few.