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Andrew Barnes is an innovator, entrepreneur and philanthropist. He is also the pioneer of the 4-day work week movement. His organization, Perpetual Guardian, piloted the very first version of the 4-day week many years ago, and Andrew wrote a whole book about it.In this conversation, we learn about how Andrew came up with the 4-day week idea on a long haul flight, why we are all collectively time poor, how to setup a 4-day week trial, and a whole lot more.Key topicsHighlights from Andrew's careerHow Andrew stumbled upon the 4-day week idea The way we work hasn't evolved in the last century We've all become collectively time poor Structuring the 4-day week at Perpetual Guardian Will people revert back to working 5 days a week? Does the 4-day week require a high trust culture?The value of beginning with a trialThe state of ongoing trials across the worldWill the rise of AI accelerate the adoption of the 4-day week?Being time rich will afford us the time to upskillDoes the future of work have 4 working days in it?