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Stories about the recently uncovered breach of the SolarWinds Orion software have been dominating the news lately, and the situation is still continuing to evolve. In this episode, we speak with Jonathan Condra, senior manager for strategic and persistent threats with Recorded Future’s Insikt Group, to get his perspective of what this breach is all about, where we stand in terms of attribution, what it means for the security community writ large, and whether or not a breach like this rises to the level of a “Cyber Pearl Harbor” or “Cyber 9/11.”