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In this podcast episode, Shivan Mehta, MD, MBA, MSHP, discusses behavioral economics in patients and clinicians, the entrance of non-traditional entities in the health care space and more.

• Intro :02
• Welcome to this episode of Gut Talk :23
• The interview/about Mehta :30
• How did you get to where you are now? What got you interested in medicine, and how did you end up with the role that you have today? :58
• Can you elaborate more on the people who had an influence on you? 3:10
• About behavioral economics 5:39
• Are there tried and true theories in behavioral economics around what works to change patient behavior? 9:25
• What about insurance companies with steerage? … Are there studies that show that those are different types of financial incentives, as opposed to paying someone? 15:45
• Have we seen, or is there research on the effect of, pricing something lower in patients’ decision making in health care? 19:25
• As an academic researcher and administrator, what do you think about the entrance of non-traditional entities in health care compared to the work that is being done by clinicians and at academic centers? 22:03
• Do you see the move from fee-for-service to quality care happening? 26:41
• Thoughts on the future of funding in health care 28:38
• What do you think about the physician’s role in current and future innovation? 31:32
• How do we create a generation of physicians who are thinking more innovatively and entrepreneurially? 34:51
• Thank you, Dr. Mehta 41:43
• Thanks for listening 41:50

Shivan Mehta, MD, MBA, MSHP, is associate chief innovation officer at Penn Medicine and associate professor of Medicine and Health Policy at the Perelman School of Medicine.

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Disclosures: Chey and Berry report no relevant financial disclosures. Mehta serves on a clinical advisory board for Guardant Health and receives grant funding from the National Institutes of Health.