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Lucy and Paul chat with Real Runner Steve, who has just completed RED January with a special team mate. Together they discover lots of things they didn't know, including the benefits of being a club runner, the difference between trail running and cross country, and how many attempts it takes to get into the London Marathon.

Steve advises how you can train for a marathon whilst balancing life as a dad and reveals a little known secret about a North East junior parkrun.

Catch up on Paul's progress in his #ploddingwithpaul challenge and the importance of exercise for positive mental health.