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Nonprofits have to answer so many questions these days: What’s the best way to invest in my nonprofit’s impact? How do I lead my team through today’s societal changes? How do I increase donor retention rates and hit fundraising goals and avoid burnout and stay on mission and still make a grocery run before dinnertime?

We’ve got a guest here who’s going to help us answer a few of these and hopefully change the way we approach relationships for the benefit of the whole changemaking sector. Andrew Olsen is Senior VP of Fundraising Solutions at Dickerson Bakker and a close friend of Funraise… and he’s going to blow your mind, listeners.

As a nonprofit consultant himself, David can relate to a lot of what Andrew is sharing, and in fact has explored that intersection of leadership, nonprofits, changemaking, and culture on his podcast.

But this conversation was different. Andrew dropped a bomb on us right at the end—a mindset shift that just turned everything upside down. We encourage you to listen as Andrew intentionally leads us down a path of long-term donor-organization relationship evolution and then changes the game with one sentence. When you’re done, listen again with that one key takeaway and prepare to unlock answers like never before.