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After 3 years of trying to get across a table from each other to record a pod conversation, Marc Vetri and Andrew finally found time during the Philly Chef Conference this spring. They met on a beautiful April morning in the dining room of Marc's flagship Vetri Cucina and went through Marc's evolution from aspiring rock star to fledgling cook to full-fledged chef and business person. Along the way, they recall some industry legends, discuss sticking to your guns in deal-making, and the rationale for overseas stages.

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