The World As It Is: Writing for Obama

In a special series for Crooked Conversations, Ben Rhodes takes a deeper dive into some of the issues and themes that he deals with in his memoir "The World As It Is" about his 10 years working as Deputy National Security Adviser to President Obama. In the first of these conversations, Ben talks to Jon Favreau and Cody Keenan about what it was like to write speeches for a president who already had a strong voice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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