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Joe Walsh is a former republican congressman from Illinois’ eighth district, a conservative radio commentator, and a former candidate for president who challenged Donald Trump for the 2020 nomination.

Joe and Alyssa Milano disagree on almost everything—but not on one of the most important issues of our day: that Donald Trump is an existential threat to our nation. In a rollicking conversation, they  talk about the state of the Republican party, the dangers of Trumpism, and Joe’s new book “Fuck Silence.”