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About a month ago, Jackie conversed with KevOnStage about sexuality and not surprisingly, it was met with a lot of controversy. One aspect of it that seems to be the most alarming was Jackie's statements on self-denial. On this episode of 30 Minutes w/The Perrys, Preston and Jackie dig more into the concept of sexuality and self-denial and the reasons why it's typically not welcomed with opened arms. To become a Patreon supporter: https://www.patreon.com/withtheperrys For more information about The Perrys: www.withtheperrys.com Book recommendations: 1: The Secret Thoughts of An Unlikely Convert: https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Thoughts-Unlikely-Convert-Expanded/dp/1884527809/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2FIS45XHD6MWBadchild=1akeywords=rosaria+butterfield+booksaqid=1596981519asprefix=roasaria+butt%2Caps%2C159asr=8-2 2: The Coddling of the American Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224919/ref=sr_1_2?crid=JERRG1OU5XZIadchild=1akeywords=the+coddling+of+the+american+mindaqid=1596981577asprefix=the+coddling+%2Caps%2C156asr=8-2