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Richard Rohr, in conversation with Paul Swanson and Brie Stoner, steps into the quagmire of sin and evil. With a posture of humility and openness, the discussion circulates on the relationship between incarnation, failure, redemption, and systems of power.  The transcript for this episode can be found here. Visit cac.org/podcast to listen to season one of Another Name for Every Thing  Visit universalchrist.org to learn more about the core themes of Richard’s book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe  We'd love to hear your thoughts, comments, or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!