042 | Rich Villodas on How to Provide Pastoral Care During a Pandemic Plus Barna Data on the Lack of Digital Spiritual Formation Offerings in Churches

Rich Villodas, author and lead pastor of New Life Fellowship in Queens, joins Carey Nieuwhof and Savannah Kimberlin to discuss how pastors can provide better pastoral care for their people while investing in their own spiritual health as leaders. Part 1 of 2. Plus, Barna data on the lack of digital spiritual formation offerings in churches and where they're seeing hope in innovation.

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