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In this episode of the Lions of Liberty Podcast, host Marc Clair flips the script and comes firing out of the gate with a rant in response to some common criticisms he often hears regarding all the time he devotes to advancing the ideas of liberty. He then welcomes in a fellow promoter of liberty, Pablo Serrato of the Los Angeles chapter of Restore the Fourth, a group dedicated to combating mass surveillance by the U.S. government. Pablo describes how he came into the liberty movement and became particularly interested in the issue of mass surveillance after the Snowden revelations. Marc and Pablo discuss the implications of governments openly spying on their citizens, and how it can chill political speech. Pablo explains how people can get involved and help to fight mass surveillance, and restore the Fourth Amendment.