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Join The Higherside Chats podcast as host Greg Carlwood talks West Point paranormal and star myths with returning guest, David Mathisen. When we examine the small sliver of the human story we call "recorded history"' and squint to make out what little we can past that, it is impossible to deny that cultures on every continent had a serious infatuation with the stars. And despite the many unknowns- the mountain of mythological stories and mysterious structures that are built upon the patterns and movements of little flickering dots of light in the night sky, prove just how serious this ancient astrological alignment obsession was to our ancestors. From Serpent Mound in Adam's County, Ohio to the great Giza Plateau; from Chinese mythology to the so-called "Holy Bible", there is nearly nothing left that doesn't tie into this persistent preoccupation with the heavens. It's safe to say this shouldn't be ignored and today we are going to do all we can to wrap our heads around the reasons for this celestial emphasis in everything. After spending over two decades as a man of faith being taught by his religious authorities to take the Bible as the isolated and literal truth of the ancient world, David Mathisen has come to discover the deep star based symbolism contained within, and the Bible's real place among a plethora of similar ancient stories and symbolic myths that had been hidden from him all those years by a system set on control rather than spiritual enlightenment. So with a vengeance and the fiery passion of a billion suns, David has quickly become one of the most profound proponents of turning back this tide with works such as "The Undying Stars: The Truth That Unites the World's Ancient Wisdom and Conspiracy to Keep It From You", and his 3 volume set "Star Myths of the World and How to Interpret Them". 3:25 To get things started, they begin by discussing the evolution of David's understanding and work since the release of his book "The Undying Stars". In a quest to better understand the language of the Bible, and deducing his previous convictions of a literal interpretation were wrong, Mathisen's first work laid out some of the evidence that the Bible, just like other myths of the world, is built on a foundation of celestial metaphor. David then began assembling the "holy trinity" of ancient astrological lore his books "Star Myths", which is a comprehensive compilation aimed to help people better understand the lost knowledge of astrotheology in a thorough and systematic way. 8:20 With accounts dating back decades of a night time visitor to the lost fifties barracks of West Point, Greg asks David, a West Point graduate and teacher to elaborate on these tales of old.  With several first person account in hand, Mathisen provides detailed narratives that give credence these creepy legends of ghost encounters and spiritual entities. 22:15 Taking the talks to the stars, Greg and David segue by examining whether these ancient myths are connected to the spirit world or the entities in it, or if it is simply a celestial connection. Although some may speculate these legends were conceived as a primitive form of nature worship, David contends these celestial actors, or celestial metaphors are not simply pointing us to the stars, but instead they are using the stars as a gigantic training aid or visible representation of the invisible world. 34:24 After discussing possible explanations for how these myths made their way across the globe and integrated into multiple cultures throughout multiple time periods, Greg and David discuss a different angle that includes the possibility of these cultures tapping into spiritual planes with shamanism and the help of massive doses of psychedelics. 37:20 David explains why the stars in the heavenly cycle are a great tool to use and facilitate the understanding of the human experience and the realm of the afterlife. With ancient cultures using the movement of the Sun as a me...