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Pete tells Jen a story from grade two, and the two unpack the possibilities of a story told with empathy, with the goal of enrolling someone in change.  Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: How might a story be a powerful way to create change? In what ways might one create agency and enrollment through storytelling? How might empathy be used to build a bridge from real to ideal? To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.  To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).