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Lizzy VanPatten is a rock climber and the founder of She Moves Mountains, a guiding company with the mission of helping women realize their strength through rock climbing. We talked about Lizzy’s brief music career, building a business, breaking into 5.12 trad, assessing fear, and her gratitude practice.   Support on Patreon: patreon.com/thenuggetclimbing   Show Notes:   http://thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/lizzy-vanpatten   Nuggets:   1:25 – Rollerblades (and Rollergangs)   2:31 – Lizzy’s brief music career, transition into rock climbing, and her first trip to Patagonia   12:03 – Starting guiding, seeing women come alive, and becoming a business owner   19:06 – Taking big leaps and why it’s hard to feel embarrassed   26:23 – She Moves Mountains growth and where things are at now   29:50 – How Lizzy makes her guides feel stoked while giving herself freedom   35:47 – Self-doubt and the importance of building a solid team   37:49 – One piece of advice for herself and running her business to pay her guides well   42:30 – Finding challenge through projecting and climbing ‘Der Sportsman’ first try   47:33 – Lizzy’s first 5.12, climbing 5.12 in four different locations, and ‘Winter Sustenance’   51:08 – Sending 5.12 fourth try and flashing two 12+ routes on top rope   52:09 – A nasty fall Lizzy took this summer   58:07 – The importance of having a goal   1:02:25 – Training for ‘Moonlight Buttress’ and projecting fear   1:07:08 – The curse of being a technical climber, pistol squats, and trying ‘Churning’   1:10:20 – Calm meditation app, highs and lows, Lizzy’s gratitude practice, and the negative bias   1:18:58 – The one thing Lizzy is most grateful for right now   1:20:44 – She Moves Mountains apparel   1:23:05 – She Moves Mountains upcoming events   1:27:39 – Lizzy’s final thoughts on facing and assessing fear   1:31:12 – Quote from Anaïs Nin