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This episode serves up two hearty chunks of Pumpkin meat! First we talk to special guest Lauren Adams (The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Modern Family, Drunk History) about her Catholic confirmation retreat, vividly linked in memory to a CD copy of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. In the process we cover everything from dead bunnies to Sinéad O'Connor to the state of the Catholic church in Buffalo, NY. Next, Frank and Pat provide commentary and analysis while listening to one of the Smashing Pumpkins' first demo cassettes, Nothing Ever Changes.  Special thanks to YouTube users: Geroge17xx, acmslp, free8bit, Wasp Kap and Fuegoman96 Follow us on the socials! Twitter: @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast