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Zahra Al-Mahdi, also known as Zouz the Bird, visual artist, filmmaker, and sound enthusiast, joins us for this episode. Zouz talks to us about the boxes we're in, and how messy that can get, and how hard we try to think "outside" of them, when really - we need to clean them up and check out their corners. How can we play around in our creative fields? How can we move to adjacent spaces? Tune in for an enlightening conversation.