Ep027 - Michael DeAngelo, Holacracy One
We had a chance to sit with Michael De Angelo from Holacracy One. Michael is an experienced business leader with C-level executive experience in different industries including healthcare, entertainment, technology, and natural resources. Starting as a Computer Scientist for the US Department of the Interior he moved on to lead technology teams at the Walt Disney company and eventually become the Deputy CIO for the State of Washington where he led the first large scale implementation of Holacracy in Government in the world. He also partnered with Harvard Business School researchers and others to lead the first controlled experiment of Holacracy. Now at HolacracyOne, he is helping businesses around the world think through the executive challenges of driving this level of change in their organizations. When he’s not helping organizations with self-management concepts he’s working with self-organizing honeybees as an avid beekeeper. We explored what Holacracy is, how it is being implemented in the private and public sector across the globe and we explored how organizations here, in the UAE, that are using it to transform their organizations. Enjoy the show! Show Notes: 02:30 - Michael’s background 03:30 - Introduction to complex technologies at Disney and it’s internet divisions in the early years 04:45 - Working in small teams at Disney 11:45 - On hierarchal systems 14:30 - His introduction to Holacracy 16:00 - Competing for talent in an already crowded tech space 21:15 - Googling “What is Holacracy?” and a 2 minute video animation 23:30 - What is Holacracy? 25:00 - The Morning Star example 27:00 - What does Holacracy One do? 33:30 - Companies and industries that practice Holacracy 35:15 - Self management hitting a tipping point around the time Zappos came out about it 37:00 - Dubai Knowledge a practitioner of Holacracy as a government agency 44:30 - What does Michael’s typical work day look like? 48:30 - The ‘no title’ business card 53:30 - ‘Follow my energy’ work scheduling a prioritization 54:00 - The right to ask anyone else when 55:30 - His ‘non-habit’ routine that he’s adapting to 58:30 - From fictional and non-fictional role models 63:00 - His morbidly motivational message on a billboard 66:15 - His concerns about the time-travel paradox and giving advice to his 20 year old self 68:00 - Michael’s personal purpose in life 68:30 - Nurturing insatiable curiosity 69:45 - “Don’t lose your momentum as you age, ramp it up as you have more experience and wisdom to solve more complex problems when you are older” See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.