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The arena's owners—Bulls Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf and Blackhawks Chairman Rocky Wirtz—and their sons Michael Reinsdorf and Danny Wirtz, spoke with Crain’s reporter Danny Ecker about the past, present and future of the United Center a quarter-century after it opened. Ecker joins the podcast today to talk about highlights from the conversation and to share audio from the interview. Plus: billionaire hedge-fund founder Ken Griffin could be shopping around a piece of his business; a Chicago plant is catching blame for a botched Ford Explorer launch; a Koch gift sparks debate at Chicago Council on Global Affairs, and some local hospitals are saving Medicare real money. Use hashtag #CrainsDailyGist on Twitter to continue the conversation about these and other business stories.