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Holly is a true inspiration. She is a woman of MANY talents from being an author, a pastor, a ministry leader, a mom… and a woman with constant endless energy.

Holly and her husband, Phillip, pastor the church Oasis LA and have a beautiful colorful marriage of 33 years. They wrote an amazing book together called LOVE WORKS which showcases both of their perspectives on love and relationships.

Today Kait and Holly talk about some of the red flags to look out for in relationships and laugh about navigating the differences we tend to find in others. Some key red flags that Kait and Holly mention are a lack of servitude, emotional recklessness, and a lack of personal growth. Kait and Holly get IN IT about these red flags and also walk through important overall compatibilities.

Above all, Kait and Holly discuss that you have to BE AN INTERESTING PERSON. Seek growth. Have a life. Have your own interests… and don’t be desperate! Holly says, “ ENJOY YOUR LIFE. SMILE. Joyful people are attractive. Be INTERESTING."

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