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In this episode, Beatrice and Uranio speak to their friend, colleague, and fellow Enneagram teacher, Ian Cron, an Enneagram Self-preservation 4. This interview does not only focus on what his experience is descriptively but what his growth journey has been. What is different? What does development look like? And what kind of inner work has helped ignite these shifts?

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