Episode #45: Tom Mann and Norm Ornstein on Political Dysfunction

Congressional scholars Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution and Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute discuss the arguments in their book It's Even Worse Than It Looks, the government shutdown and the effects of political dysfunction on national security. Get the ad-free version of the Lawfare Podcast on our Patreon page See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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