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Joe Duffy is the founder and CEO of Pulumi, an open-source cloud development platform. He joins Adam and Craig to explain why a general purpose programming language is a better tool for cloud infrastructure than a domain-specific language (or YAML), and how you can use Pulumi to provision cloud infrastructure and Kubernetes resources alike.

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Chatter of the week

• DevOpsDays Auckland
  • Craig’s talk
• In which 32 bit apps don’t work on macOS Catalina

News of the week

• Dapr, OAM and Rudr
  • Announcing Dapr, the Distributed Application Runtime
  • Dapr homepage
  • Announcing the Open Application Model
  • Open App Model
  • Ship without a Rudr’s like a ship without a Rudr’s like a ship without a Rudr
• Red Hat introduces OpenShift 4.2
• Goldilocks from Fairwinds
• Ubuntu 19.10
  • Episode 60 with Mark Shuttleworth
• Introducing SPIRE 0.8.2
  • Episode 45 with Andrew Jessup
• Istio performance improvements noted by Pablo Moncada Isla
• Graboid: first cryptojacking worm for Docker found by Unit42
• Analysis of two Kubernetes vulnerabiltiies by Palo Alto Networks
• Harbor 1.9
• CNCF announces schedules for Forums in Seoul and Sydney
• Container Platform Networking at Cruise by Karl Isenberg and Buck Wallander
• Sugarkube and cattle clusters

Links from the interview

• Pulumi
• Joe Duffy’s blog:
  • Hello, Pulumi!
  • Journey to Pulumi 1.0
• WPF (Avalon) and WCF
• 10 Years of DevOpsDays
• Comparisons of Pulumi vs other platforms
• TypeScript
• Dark programming language
• Three business models of Open Source by Peter Levine and Jennifer Li
• $ for enterprises and free community edition
• AWS and Elasticsearch Inc.
• Pulumi on GitHub
• Joe Duffy and Pulumi on Twitter