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As we head into the new year, I ask that you revisit this podcast episode, where you’ll find many more valuable gems from my friend, Curtis Kopf. Your business—and your customers—will thank you.

In my conversation with Curtis Kopf, the Chief Experience Officer at REI, we discuss thought processes and strategies that go into navigating successful CX transformations. Curtis is a seasoned leader and CX practitioner who’s worked across a few different industries during his career. He has spent time at Amazon in the early 2000s, Microsoft, Alaska Airlines, and Premera Blue Cross. Curtis definitely knows a thing or two about how to develop a customer-first strategy.