Sandee Birdsong

Richard and Jazmin get an interesting (often unsung and very dirty) point-of-view from the television world of cooking with Sandee Birdsong, the head of the culinary department (i.e. the people who actually make cooking shows run) of Top Chef and MasterChef. Also, listeners can play along with the grossest game Richard's come up with so far...this is not an episode for the squeamish!

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