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Which privacy service deserves your trust? Often you will hear things like good security or if the code is open source. But as always, it has a lot to do with money. Who pays in the end? In today's episode we welcome no other than TheHatedOne (Privacy YouTuber), who joins us to discuss business models. Why are they important? How can a service be financially sustainable? And out of Signal and GrapheneOS, which one does a great job while the other is set up in a questionable manner to say the least. Show Notes - Accompanying Blog Post: https://safing.io/blog/2021/05/06/how-weak-business-models-destroy-everything-we-fight-for/ - https://world.hey.com/jonas/how-money-dictates-design-decisions-5e866cd9Support - Use the Portmaster for Free, Forever: https://safing.io/portmaster/ - Give Us a Star on GitHub: https://github.com/safing/portmaster/ - Tell Two Friends about Safing TheHatedOne's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/TheHatedOne/David's Socials - https://twitter.com/davegson/ - https://github.com/davegson/ - https://reddit.com/u/davegson/Signal a MobileCoin Sources - https://signal.org/blog/help-us-test-payments-in-signal/ - https://signal.org/blog/update-on-beta-testing-payments/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mo8o7c/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mow3ac/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mo0bck/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mm6nad/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mrespr/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/mneh5r/ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26726246 - https://ndtv.com/india-news/co-founder-brian-acton-to-ndtv-where-signal-scores-over-whatsapp-2351616(from minute 7:00 Brian Acton talks about Business Models) Music Credit All music composed by Philter. Intro Song: "Sunrise". Outro Song: "Sunset"