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This week is an interview Dave conducted with UK based design agency HE Creative. It was a relationship built from a random book posting on Instagram and this was the first tie Dave and Phil ever spoke or saw each other. What happened next was a very honest reality check on life, business, relationships, social media and self preservation. It really was one of our most honest interviews and regardless of your profession, you should listen to this! Check them out at https://www.hecreative.com and follow them on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hecreative/ To hear more about HE Creative and Phil's thoughts on running a studio, keeping on top of mental health and much more - check out CREATIVE WAFFLE PODCAST from Monday 8th July 2019. https://anchor.fm/creativewaffle