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I was saving this for the Fourth of July It seemed like a great Independence day episode and then it didn’t quite get done but close!https://www.lifewithoutplastic.com/store/ () Chantal Plamondon and Jay Sinha https://amzn.to/2MQGYc3 () https://amzn.to/2MQGYc3 (Life Without Plastic: The Practical Step-by-Step Guide to Avoiding Plastic to Keep Your Family and the Planet Health)   Tell us a little about yourself. I have kind of a mixed background law science biochemistry ecotoxicology wife Chantal Plamondon she has a background in law as well with business and ethics Our story goes back several years, starts with our son who was born in 2003. We were quite eco minded and environmentally friendly in the way we lived. When he was born we took it to a new level, we had some mold in the place that we were living and we got sick for about a year. As a result we became  more environmentally friendly decrease our toxic load all around exposure to toxins in our everyday life. Chantal read this great article on plastics and the chemicals that come out of plastics! That was kind of news to us, we were doing what we thought was the eco friendly. We would use the bottle and wash it and use it over and over  Those bottles are intended for single use, not intended to be used over and over break down single use disposable chemicals started to look for a non plastic bottle it was very hard to find! Back in 2003. There wasn’t that much out there, but we found a coop https://www.kleankanteen.com/ (Klean Kanteen) they were making stainless steel bottles tried it out https://www.lifewithoutplastic.com/store/ () so when our son was born we wanted to buy some glass baby bottles avoid plastics still needed to store milk didn’t want to be boiling plastic bottles high temps are hard on the plastic didn’t want to expose our son to plastic. We looked for glass baby bottles They used to be the norm! at that point in the early 2000s hard to find did find a company that was making them contacted them to buy some glass baby bottles but the minimum order was a 1000 Chantal always wanted to start her own business wanted to do something environmental offering alternatives knew there were others out there looking for them started with those products glass water bottles stainless steel food containers to replace tupperware lots of tupperware and we would use it over and over if you put a tupperware container microwave it over time you’ll find it might become a little red or orange can’t wash it off That’s because the spaghetti sauce which is kind of oily, when it’s subjected to a lot of heat, it goes into the plastic so then some of the plastic is coming out into the spaghetti sauce. The chemicals that we now know can disrupt the hormones in humans began with these stainless steel put up the website  started selling these things but also educating about the whole plastics issue It really took off! The Canadian government back in 2007 decided to ban the use of BPA it’s a chemical that is used in plastic called polycarbonate which was used to make a lot of baby bottle and water bottles.  It’s still used in those huge plastic water dispensers in offices! It’s also used to make epoxy that lines canned food. Pretty much all canned food there are a few examples now, but most still have lining made of BPA strange but very widespread is those very thin cash register receipts ink on them So if you are touching the ink then it goes directly into your skin tid bit antibacterial agent in it will actually increase the absorption of BPA from cash register receipt. So when the Canadian government banned that really put a lot more interest of people looking for alternatives to plastic and baby bottles and the lining of baby formula containers.  That got people more and more interested to finding Support this podcast