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This episode of my podcast is a conversation with Usman Asif, a thought leader in the tech industry. The discussion covers various topics including the remote culture in Pakistan, the importance of on-site work environments, the meaning of DEVSINC, the difference between a developer and an engineer, and the significance of having a market-sellable skill set. The conversation also delves into the training and leadership practices at DEVSINC, and the growth-oriented approach of the company, as opposed to a revenue-driven one. The podcast also covers the use of AI in data analysis, the company's investment strategies, and the mission of DEVSINC. The conversation touches on the quality of freelance engineers in Pakistan, the role of AI and human intelligence, and the impact of technology advancements on skills. The podcast also discusses the hiring process at DEVSINC, team building, and the qualities of a good leader. Usman also shares his views on the tech bubble, decision-making, and advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. The podcast concludes with a thank you note and contact details for Usman Asif.