RPR Episode 39: Ali Gilbert
This week on the show we welcome Ali Gilbert to talk about all things men's health including testosterone, psychology, sleep, training, and why less might be more to start seeing progress. Ali is a fitness professional living in Greenwich, Connecticut working with clients both locally and remotely. She got her start working in golf fitness back in 2008 by initially bartering training for golf lessons. Since more men seek out training for golf, she worked with a mostly male clientele from the beginning. Ali quickly noticed how many men just weren’t taking care of themselves and there were a lot of misconceptions around men’s health. We first dive into what got Ali interested in men’s health to begin with. When working with her clients early on, she saw a need for better education on the topic and had a difficult time finding a trusted source that she could refer out to. After seeing so many men suffer from issues related to low testosterone levels, and the lack of available information, she saw that men needed an advocate for looking after their health. Over the years she has been able to collaborate with a number of medical professionals and has been able to create a network of trusted doctors around the United States. Next we talk about some of the psychological aspects around men’s health and how Ali is able to have difficult conversations with new clients. For starters, Ali is very open on her social media of what she does and how she can help, so when men reach out for remote training they already know what they’re going to get. In person, however, is a little different as most of those clients aren’t on social media and only know her through Golf Fitness, so it can take a little bit of time before they start talking about things like hormones. She has actually found that most men are open to discussing rather personal issues such as erectile dysfunction and she uses that as an opportunity to educate them around various lifestyle factors that could be affecting their sexual health. We then transition into Ali’s pillars of men’s health. Before tackling anything else, she always addresses sleep and nutrition, despite that not being what most people want to hear. With schedules being flipped due to Covid, many people are struggling to find a consistent sleep schedule. Ali puts the emphasis on quality sleep, which means staying away from electronics right before bed, having a routine, and tracking sleep quality with wearables such as the Oura ring. If someone snores or has sleep apnea, that’s a huge red flag and often the lowest hanging fruit in terms of improving client’s carbohydrate tolerance and getting them to lean out through some simple interventions. Ali also finds herself having to convince people to train less by understanding what hard training actually is and the importance of recovery. Supplements are the very last consideration coming only after the big rocks are taken care of. When talking about how Ali gets her type A clients to slow down, her approach is to just be blunt and honest. These are often executives and CEOs of big companies who are usually very used to telling people what to do, so when faced with someone who is the opposite of how most people interact with them they actually appreciate it. Ali shares the example of a client who came to her putting in a ton of work with his training, but only eating 1800 calories a day and still wasn’t able to lose fat. She pulled back his training to just 4 days a week, told him to do some walking, and actually rest on rest days. While the scale has gone up over the past 6 weeks (as expected), his measurements have stayed the same and he has gotten noticeably leaner. It’s results like this along with positive changes in metrics such as resting heart rate, HRV, and sleep quality that allow her to get more buy in over time. Ali is also adamant on getting people to do actual strength training with appropriate rest periods as...