Episode 19: John Kopp - USCG - BM1 - Surfman

Former Surfman John Kopp talks what it takes to pass an underway checkride and certify to lead boat crews in the surf, and how he’s helping to keep the lessons learned from a 1997 tragedy alive in the hopes they prevent future loss of life. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/theyhadtogoout/support

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