Is kale more interesting than the iPhone SE?
This week on Vergecast, Nilay and Dieter bring in news editor Jake Kastrenakes to discuss happenings at the Apple event this week as well as Vizio's new products and initiatives. Racked style editor Nicola Fumo again joins us to helm the hype matrix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
