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America turns the heat up on Kaspersky anti-virus, Disqus announces a data breach, Elon Musk plans a bolthole on Mars to escape our robot overlords, and Graham gets to play chess with Garry Kasparov. All this and much much more is discussed in the latest edition of the "Smashing Security" podcast by computer security veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault, joined this week by technology journalist and broadcaster David McClelland. Follow the show on Twitter at @SmashinSecurity, or visit our website for more episodes. Remember: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, or your favourite podcast app, to catch all of the episodes as they go live. Thanks for listening! Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language. Special Guest: David McClelland.