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Join Kevin Mackey and his special guest Doug Sands host of the Making Meaning Podcast and Hypnotist.

Doug is a hypnotist, adventurer, and mental health advocate. He is the host of the Making Meaning podcast, a show about how adventurous people have overcome struggles to reach their dreams.

As a hypnotist, Doug focuses on helping clients with mental health battles like anxiety and depression. Doug has faced both of these and has made helping others his personal mission.

As a Buddhist and philosopher, Doug has been examining the big questions of life for decades.