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This week we caught up with Erika Hall, co-founder of Mule Design and author of Just Enough Research. We dive deep into a handful of topics, from user research to gender in tech, from the Apple Watch to the evolution of San Francisco culture - we had a lot of fun recording this one! If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly! Sponsors: Iconfinder (use promo code 'ROBOT' for 50% off your first month!) Pixate (click here to save 25% on a yearly subscription!) Erika on the Web: Twitter Medium Instagram Just Enough Research Mule Design Show Notes: 3:00 - We catch up with Erika to learn about design research. Erika Hall on Medium Just Enough Research Observing the User Experience 8:00 - What are some of the myths of design and research? Steve Jobs building NeXT 16:00 - Has Mule ever considered launching original products? Mule Radio Syndicate Mule Evening Edition Unsuck-It Mule's Audubon case study The new Seattle Times 1:17:00 - Plugs! You're My Favorite Client Chug Life