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In the first few months of 2020, several of the major oil and gas companies, including BP and Shell made bold pronouncements of a transition to a clean future.

Sabrina Watkins gives her perspective of whether these declarations will amount to much, or whether the public should be skeptical of such claims. She retired from ConocoPhillips in 2017 after a decade as Global Head of Sustainability and is very familiar with not just the internal corporate decision-making necessary behind such a statement, but also community engagement at a grassroots level to connect with the people within their sphere.

Interview by Jimmy Jia (www.jimmyjia.com)

Music by Sean Hart (www.seanhart.com)

Website: www.leversforchangepodcast.com

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