104. How do you create change? (f. Sass Allard)

Exactly what does it take to change? ⏳ Our hosts Phil and Lauren get straight to the source in a meeting with change management consultant (and former client) Sass Allard. As someone who’s hired to implement and sustain permanent change in companies and people, our guest understands the intricacies of thriving in times of uncertainty. Released with the upcoming new year in mind, use this episode to inspire goals and more!

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