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How can we measure creativity? It's a big question, and a big challenge - but one that WPP's Perry Nightingale is keen to answer (with a little help from Oxford University and the Future of Marketing Initiative). In the second part of Andrew and Jane's conversation with Perry, we hear about Perry's creativity school, infusing creativity into an organisation, what has changed in the last 10 years (and what might happen next), along with Perry's views on how advertising agencies can find, encourage, retain and empower creative people.

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