American Pendulum II
In this episode of More Perfect, two families grapple with one terrible Supreme Court decision. Dred Scott v. Sandford is one of the most infamous cases in Supreme Court history: in 1857, a slave named Dred Scott filed a suit for his freedom and lost. In his decision, Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney wrote that black men “had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.” One civil war and more than a century later, the Taneys and the Scotts reunite at a Hilton in Missouri to figure out what reconciliation looks like in the 21st century.
The key voices:
- Lynne Jackson, great-great-granddaughter of Dred and Harriet Scott, president and founder of the Dred Scott Heritage Foundation
- Dred Scott Madison, great-great-grandson of Dred Scott
- Barbara McGregory, great-great-granddaughter of Dred Scott
- Charlie Taney, great-great-grandnephew of Roger Brooke Taney, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who wrote the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision
- Richard Josey, Manager of Programs at the Minnesota Historical Society
The key cases:
- 1857: Dred Scott v. Sandford
The key links:
Special thanks to Kate Taney Billingsley, whose play, A Man of His Time, inspired the story.
Additional music for this episode by Gyan Riley.
Thanks to Soren Shade for production help.
Leadership support for More Perfect is provided by The Joyce Foundation. Additional funding is provided by The Charles Evans Hughes Memorial Foundation.
Supreme Court archival audio comes from Oyez®, a free law project in collaboration with the Legal Information Institute at Cornell.




